Do not use DMT as your first psychedelic. Try something milder like LSD first and in a small amount at that, and work up until you are comfortable with 300 or more ug before considering DMT.
DMT is not like other psychedelics. It is closest to Salvia but with a clear headspace, feeling more real than reality. It will lift a lid off of reality that you did not ever even realize was there, and when that happens it can be extremely overwhelming. If you have no psychedelic experience at all, this could be terrifying. Even to someone with experience, expect it to be astonishing and leave you saying “wtf, wtf, wtf” afterwards.
If you do use DMT, you are best working up from very threshold doses so you know the direction it’s going in. You don’t want to just grab a bunch of DMT and break through. This is NOT like a dream, and a bad trip is not like a night terror. There is a reason many religions practice the use of psychedelics rather than simply lucid dreaming. These things do something to reality that is completely foreign. It will take you somewhere you have never been before both externally and internally, “you” might even cease to exist where it takes you…
It is impossible to explain to someone who has never used any psychedelic substance, much like trying to explain the color green to someone who has never seen green before. You can’t know until you have felt it. And you certainly do not want to end up in the throws of a breakthrough trip with one of the world’s most powerful psychedelics IF it turns out you don’t like what it does. It’s not always sunshine and fairy dust. There aren’t little elves crawling about like you read about on the internet. It does something to reality and existence itself, and in my own experience it mirrors Eastern philosophy like Buddhism/monoism. Know this is something you want before you put yourself at that level.
DMT positively changed my view on the nature of reality and cured me of many mental health issues and struggles, but I have also had very terrifying times with it.
—
My experiences with N,N-DMT use a Storz & Bickel MIGHTY vaporizer. I put the liquid pad into the vape, the freebase powder directly on top.
Temperature set to 175C.
I wait until it hits 175C then begin to inhale. The technique is similar to Salvia: a long deep inhale, breathe in some air on top to make sure it’s all down in your lungs, then hold it down for about 15 seconds before exhaling and taking another long deep inhale. The smoke tickles and often makes you feel like you need to cough, but is not as bad as many make it out to be.
On my first attempts I used very small amounts, and waited a little while between attempts. DMT does not appear to have a tolerance effect, so you can trip multiple times in quick succession, testing slightly bigger and bigger amounts each time for maximum safety.
I use a scale which measures down to 0.001g which I calibrate between uses. I use a small microdosing plastic spoon to scoop out small amounts of powder and load into a small capsule type thing that comes with the Vape and is part of the loading device (I am not sure what this specific part is called). Once I have measured out the correct amount, I use this little tube thing and turn it over to deposit the powder onto the pad in the vape, then put the top of the vape back on.
WARNING #1: “Changa” or Ayahuasca should NEVER be used if you are on medication without first ascertaining that it is certainly safe to mix. Changa contains MAOI compounds, and when combined with common medication including over-the-counter remedies and antidepressants like SSRIs, can cause a hypertensive crisis. Even certain foods such as cured meats and cheese can lead to a hypertensive crisis if consumed while a MAOI is active.
WARNING #2: N,N-DMT (often referred to as simply “DMT”) is NOT the same as 5-MeO-DMT, 4-ACO-DMT, or many other compounds with DMT in the name. 5-MeO-DMT is not only more intense than N,N-DMT, but also more physically dangerous and can cause death. 4-ACO-DMT is a separate substance which is consumed orally and acts almost identically to Magic Mushrooms.
WARNING #3: DMT would not be the best idea as a party drug or something to do with friends for a laugh, it can lead to incredibly overwhelming experiences which are deeply spiritual/religious in nature, depending on the dosage and any other substances taken with it… It can be lifechanging… I am not saying it makes you a bad person if you DO use it that way, but I don’t think you will get quite what you are looking for if you use it with expectations of having a fun time (albeit the visuals are indeed very interesting, and might be semi-recreational in threshold doses). For a fun time at a house party, LSD in lower doses like 100ug would probably be more along the lines of what you want.
WARNING #4: DMT seems to be STRONGLY potentiated by LSD. Small doses of DMT while on LSD can lead to extreme breakthrough type trips which might be overwhelming if not expected.
—
Effects
Effects may vary based on the amount taken. If you take enough, you might shoot past earlier stages without experiencing them.
I can describe it as such…
The first effect you will notice is a sort of floaty feeling, it feels like your entire body has been administered a muscle-relaxant sedative (Valium AKA diazepam specifically). Visually, distortions apply to specific objects and are sort of like you have applied the Posterize effect to them in PhotoShop, they go just a little bit cartoony and flat looking. The edges not so well defined as usual. It is possible you will hear an alien kind of humming or buzzing noise but I have only experienced this once.
The patterning with DMT is very distinct, it looks a bit like a fish scale/petal pattern. I have seen people refer to it as “Chrysanthemum” patterns and that is accurate, it is exactly like staring directly into this flower. Not necessarily in color.
Whereas LSD visuals appear to warp things like a lenticular-print photo or like a current/wave that’s slow moving – DMT will morph things in that petal type pattern. Usually bringing the edges of a familiar image inwards slightly following that shape.
You may see tracers like you have taken LSD, and looking at screens (mobile phone screens often look particularly bizarre on psychedelics) things may look “cleaner” and letters more spaced apart.
…
On slightly higher amounts, things may change color significantly, entire objects may change to a different color, for example your curtains may turn bright purple. Again it only appears to apply to certain objects.
At this sort of stage, your consciousness splits. Your sober self remains, but another consciousness with bizarre thought patterns also emerges and the two coincide.
Because of this duality, at this stage you can see something both still and moving at the same time. For example, with your eyes open you can see that a tower fan in your room is completely stationary, but you will be daydreaming that it is blowing kisses at you and bowing, or something of that nature.
This daydream level of consciousness can spit wild images out at you, as well as thoughts.
…
On even higher amounts, when breaking through, the trip feels similar to Salvia in a number of ways.
There is a distinct “blast off”, everything shifts intensely and quickly. Visually it is almost impossible to explain, but it may seem a bit like your vision zooms out or in, your field of view widens or narrows (like a tunnel-vision effect). The boundaries of the room you are in may appear to alter.
Visuals may consist of a strong change of hue like you have turned on a colored lightbulb which is illuminating the room. Other visions like petal-patterned eyes may fill the room, but the trip begins to move quite quickly here and you may not be able to process it as it happens so fast and is such a sudden shift in perceptions and perspective.
With your eyes closed, you may see fully-detailed and colorful visions, so intricate as to be like an alternate dimension… Not just random shapes or imagery on the back of your eyelids, but like you are literally in an alternate dimension.
…
Ego death is EXTREMELY likely, and you may feel as though you are no longer your body or that you have reached a higher state of ultimate reality. You can break several layers deep, after ego death it can feel like you go deeper and deeper and deeper, eventually reaching “nirvana”/”heaven” which is a state of ultimate being where you exist as a pure vessel of consciousness.
Regardless of visuals, you may feel a strong sense of unity and oneness with the universe/existence. It feels like you have returned to what you really are/where you came from (like Salvia). You may begin to feel the “everyone is one” type thing that many fans of psychedelics discuss…
To clear that up, I think what it means is not that we are literally the exact same, but that we are like leaves all growing from the same tree. There is one all-encompassing consciousness/2D plane of existence, and each of us are a small fragment of that whole segmented off into what we are (us – our ego). We are all sharing the same consciousness/plane of existence but are different parts of the whole.
You may feel a sense that the separation between living things is an illusion, and that we are ALL this singular sheet of spacetime/existence/consciousness, simply given the sense of separation.
You may speak to something. You might not even see what it is/hear any voice, or even perceive anything as being there, but you will speak as though something is. It may feel like you are communicating with some sort of higher power telepathically. This higher power may be perceived as god/some other entity, or it may be the sheet of consciousness/existence itself which you communicate with. Depending on the dose, this “power” might not feel more powerful than you (for example if you reach “heaven” you will feel you have gone a step beyond the level where this entity exists).
Using the tree analogy, if we are the leaves and consciousness is the tree, these deities may be like the branches. But you can actually go beyond the branches and reunite with the tree.
Personally I have had religious type experiences with this substance which were so powerful that I cried when I returned to humanity.
WARNING: Uncontrollable noise is possible, do not use this substance anywhere where you have to remain quiet. Similar to Salvia, you may be overwhelmed with an unstoppable urge to laugh maniacally, or scream (even if the experience is very pleasant), or shout out.
It is advisable to have a sitter, because like Salvia you can lose sense of your body.
…
Common themes and imagery include the Chrysanthemum/petal type shape patterns (very common), carnivalesque imagery which may include clowns or jesters, fantasy-book creatures like elves and goblins, aliens, and religious symbols… Abstract visions may occur but not simply fractals, more like looking into an alternate dimension, luminescent and vivid.
…
After a trip, you may feel very sleepy. The sedative type effect remains for a little while post-trip.
Similar Compounds:
Salvia Divinorum (Salvinorin A):
I have found Salvia extracts (30x is what I have experience with) to be very similar to high doses of DMT. Both Salvia and DMT have an intense launch and shorter durations than most psychedelics. Both dissolve the user’s sense of self very readily, and often cause out-of-body type sensations. Both seem to take the user to the same place, which is the place where nothing exists but existence. Both have a sense of “coming home”, or like this is what you have always been.
Salvia is stronger but also more abstract. When DMT takes you to this place, you can see it more clearly, whereas Salvia has the additional effect of confusing you as to what you really are, so you can believe you are a bathroom tile or something of that nature. Salvia is also physically more intense, and you feel a strong sensation of movement, often repetitive (like a flip book) and very overwhelming.
Many people seem to have pleasant trips on DMT, whereas Salvia seems to have a propensity to cause frightening experiences – but this is person dependent, and not as prevalent as reported.
—
Possible Therapeutic Benefits
Like other psychedelics DMT appears to have potential to cause lasting positive psychological changes. In my opinion, LSD appears to be a more versatile tool for psychotherapy, as it lasts much longer and more feelings can be provoked since complete loss of ego does not tend to happen as readily. LSD is able to release repressed emotions and trauma.
When “ego” is lost completely, one’s own traumas and mental struggles dissolve with it, which means it is probably ineffective to attempt to work through these problems when a patient is in such a state.
However DMT may be an overarching powerful therapeutic tool for its ability to break a person through to “ultimate reality”, which on reflection in my experience, causes immense lasting positive life changes. A true spiritual/religious awakening type of effect. I have heard similar reports from those who have used 5-MeO-DMT although I have never tried that substance myself.
DMT in low amounts could be effective as a sleeping aid as opposed to benzodiazepines.
It may also be a useful tool for terminally ill patients, as the “unification” with the total sum whole can reduce a person’s fear of death.
…
Personal benefits experienced by myself include:
- A sense that I am inherently as good as anyone else.
- A reduced fear of death.
- A sense of oneness and unity with existence, which can help to minimize certain traumas such as the loss of a loved one.
DMT breakthroughs have allowed me to come off of antidepressant medication (I didn’t feel I need it anymore), and changed my view on the nature of reality itself.
N,N-DMT: What to Expect
May 4, 2020
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Do not use DMT as your first psychedelic. Try something milder like LSD first and in a small amount at that, and work up until you are comfortable with 300 or more ug before considering DMT.
DMT is not like other psychedelics. It is closest to Salvia but with a clear headspace, feeling more real than reality. It will lift a lid off of reality that you did not ever even realize was there, and when that happens it can be extremely overwhelming. If you have no psychedelic experience at all, this could be terrifying. Even to someone with experience, expect it to be astonishing and leave you saying “wtf, wtf, wtf” afterwards.
If you do use DMT, you are best working up from very threshold doses so you know the direction it’s going in. You don’t want to just grab a bunch of DMT and break through. This is NOT like a dream, and a bad trip is not like a night terror. There is a reason many religions practice the use of psychedelics rather than simply lucid dreaming. These things do something to reality that is completely foreign. It will take you somewhere you have never been before both externally and internally, “you” might even cease to exist where it takes you…
It is impossible to explain to someone who has never used any psychedelic substance, much like trying to explain the color green to someone who has never seen green before. You can’t know until you have felt it. And you certainly do not want to end up in the throws of a breakthrough trip with one of the world’s most powerful psychedelics IF it turns out you don’t like what it does. It’s not always sunshine and fairy dust. There aren’t little elves crawling about like you read about on the internet. It does something to reality and existence itself, and in my own experience it mirrors Eastern philosophy like Buddhism/monoism. Know this is something you want before you put yourself at that level.
DMT positively changed my view on the nature of reality and cured me of many mental health issues and struggles, but I have also had very terrifying times with it.
—
My experiences with N,N-DMT use a Storz & Bickel MIGHTY vaporizer. I put the liquid pad into the vape, the freebase powder directly on top.
Temperature set to 175C.
I wait until it hits 175C then begin to inhale. The technique is similar to Salvia: a long deep inhale, breathe in some air on top to make sure it’s all down in your lungs, then hold it down for about 15 seconds before exhaling and taking another long deep inhale. The smoke tickles and often makes you feel like you need to cough, but is not as bad as many make it out to be.
On my first attempts I used very small amounts, and waited a little while between attempts. DMT does not appear to have a tolerance effect, so you can trip multiple times in quick succession, testing slightly bigger and bigger amounts each time for maximum safety.
I use a scale which measures down to 0.001g which I calibrate between uses. I use a small microdosing plastic spoon to scoop out small amounts of powder and load into a small capsule type thing that comes with the Vape and is part of the loading device (I am not sure what this specific part is called). Once I have measured out the correct amount, I use this little tube thing and turn it over to deposit the powder onto the pad in the vape, then put the top of the vape back on.
WARNING #1: “Changa” or Ayahuasca should NEVER be used if you are on medication without first ascertaining that it is certainly safe to mix. Changa contains MAOI compounds, and when combined with common medication including over-the-counter remedies and antidepressants like SSRIs, can cause a hypertensive crisis. Even certain foods such as cured meats and cheese can lead to a hypertensive crisis if consumed while a MAOI is active.
WARNING #2: N,N-DMT (often referred to as simply “DMT”) is NOT the same as 5-MeO-DMT, 4-ACO-DMT, or many other compounds with DMT in the name. 5-MeO-DMT is not only more intense than N,N-DMT, but also more physically dangerous and can cause death. 4-ACO-DMT is a separate substance which is consumed orally and acts almost identically to Magic Mushrooms.
WARNING #3: DMT would not be the best idea as a party drug or something to do with friends for a laugh, it can lead to incredibly overwhelming experiences which are deeply spiritual/religious in nature, depending on the dosage and any other substances taken with it… It can be lifechanging… I am not saying it makes you a bad person if you DO use it that way, but I don’t think you will get quite what you are looking for if you use it with expectations of having a fun time (albeit the visuals are indeed very interesting, and might be semi-recreational in threshold doses). For a fun time at a house party, LSD in lower doses like 100ug would probably be more along the lines of what you want.
WARNING #4: DMT seems to be STRONGLY potentiated by LSD. Small doses of DMT while on LSD can lead to extreme breakthrough type trips which might be overwhelming if not expected.
—
Effects
Effects may vary based on the amount taken. If you take enough, you might shoot past earlier stages without experiencing them.
I can describe it as such…
The first effect you will notice is a sort of floaty feeling, it feels like your entire body has been administered a muscle-relaxant sedative (Valium AKA diazepam specifically). Visually, distortions apply to specific objects and are sort of like you have applied the Posterize effect to them in PhotoShop, they go just a little bit cartoony and flat looking. The edges not so well defined as usual. It is possible you will hear an alien kind of humming or buzzing noise but I have only experienced this once.
The patterning with DMT is very distinct, it looks a bit like a fish scale/petal pattern. I have seen people refer to it as “Chrysanthemum” patterns and that is accurate, it is exactly like staring directly into this flower. Not necessarily in color.
Whereas LSD visuals appear to warp things like a lenticular-print photo or like a current/wave that’s slow moving – DMT will morph things in that petal type pattern. Usually bringing the edges of a familiar image inwards slightly following that shape.
You may see tracers like you have taken LSD, and looking at screens (mobile phone screens often look particularly bizarre on psychedelics) things may look “cleaner” and letters more spaced apart.
…
On slightly higher amounts, things may change color significantly, entire objects may change to a different color, for example your curtains may turn bright purple. Again it only appears to apply to certain objects.
At this sort of stage, your consciousness splits. Your sober self remains, but another consciousness with bizarre thought patterns also emerges and the two coincide.
Because of this duality, at this stage you can see something both still and moving at the same time. For example, with your eyes open you can see that a tower fan in your room is completely stationary, but you will be daydreaming that it is blowing kisses at you and bowing, or something of that nature.
This daydream level of consciousness can spit wild images out at you, as well as thoughts.
…
On even higher amounts, when breaking through, the trip feels similar to Salvia in a number of ways.
There is a distinct “blast off”, everything shifts intensely and quickly. Visually it is almost impossible to explain, but it may seem a bit like your vision zooms out or in, your field of view widens or narrows (like a tunnel-vision effect). The boundaries of the room you are in may appear to alter.
Visuals may consist of a strong change of hue like you have turned on a colored lightbulb which is illuminating the room. Other visions like petal-patterned eyes may fill the room, but the trip begins to move quite quickly here and you may not be able to process it as it happens so fast and is such a sudden shift in perceptions and perspective.
With your eyes closed, you may see fully-detailed and colorful visions, so intricate as to be like an alternate dimension… Not just random shapes or imagery on the back of your eyelids, but like you are literally in an alternate dimension.
…
Ego death is EXTREMELY likely, and you may feel as though you are no longer your body or that you have reached a higher state of ultimate reality. You can break several layers deep, after ego death it can feel like you go deeper and deeper and deeper, eventually reaching “nirvana”/”heaven” which is a state of ultimate being where you exist as a pure vessel of consciousness.
Regardless of visuals, you may feel a strong sense of unity and oneness with the universe/existence. It feels like you have returned to what you really are/where you came from (like Salvia). You may begin to feel the “everyone is one” type thing that many fans of psychedelics discuss…
To clear that up, I think what it means is not that we are literally the exact same, but that we are like leaves all growing from the same tree. There is one all-encompassing consciousness/2D plane of existence, and each of us are a small fragment of that whole segmented off into what we are (us – our ego). We are all sharing the same consciousness/plane of existence but are different parts of the whole.
You may feel a sense that the separation between living things is an illusion, and that we are ALL this singular sheet of spacetime/existence/consciousness, simply given the sense of separation.
You may speak to something. You might not even see what it is/hear any voice, or even perceive anything as being there, but you will speak as though something is. It may feel like you are communicating with some sort of higher power telepathically. This higher power may be perceived as god/some other entity, or it may be the sheet of consciousness/existence itself which you communicate with. Depending on the dose, this “power” might not feel more powerful than you (for example if you reach “heaven” you will feel you have gone a step beyond the level where this entity exists).
Using the tree analogy, if we are the leaves and consciousness is the tree, these deities may be like the branches. But you can actually go beyond the branches and reunite with the tree.
Personally I have had religious type experiences with this substance which were so powerful that I cried when I returned to humanity.
WARNING: Uncontrollable noise is possible, do not use this substance anywhere where you have to remain quiet. Similar to Salvia, you may be overwhelmed with an unstoppable urge to laugh maniacally, or scream (even if the experience is very pleasant), or shout out.
It is advisable to have a sitter, because like Salvia you can lose sense of your body.
…
Common themes and imagery include the Chrysanthemum/petal type shape patterns (very common), carnivalesque imagery which may include clowns or jesters, fantasy-book creatures like elves and goblins, aliens, and religious symbols… Abstract visions may occur but not simply fractals, more like looking into an alternate dimension, luminescent and vivid.
…
After a trip, you may feel very sleepy. The sedative type effect remains for a little while post-trip.
Similar Compounds:
Salvia Divinorum (Salvinorin A):
I have found Salvia extracts (30x is what I have experience with) to be very similar to high doses of DMT. Both Salvia and DMT have an intense launch and shorter durations than most psychedelics. Both dissolve the user’s sense of self very readily, and often cause out-of-body type sensations. Both seem to take the user to the same place, which is the place where nothing exists but existence. Both have a sense of “coming home”, or like this is what you have always been.
Salvia is stronger but also more abstract. When DMT takes you to this place, you can see it more clearly, whereas Salvia has the additional effect of confusing you as to what you really are, so you can believe you are a bathroom tile or something of that nature. Salvia is also physically more intense, and you feel a strong sensation of movement, often repetitive (like a flip book) and very overwhelming.
Many people seem to have pleasant trips on DMT, whereas Salvia seems to have a propensity to cause frightening experiences – but this is person dependent, and not as prevalent as reported.
—
Possible Therapeutic Benefits
Like other psychedelics DMT appears to have potential to cause lasting positive psychological changes. In my opinion, LSD appears to be a more versatile tool for psychotherapy, as it lasts much longer and more feelings can be provoked since complete loss of ego does not tend to happen as readily. LSD is able to release repressed emotions and trauma.
When “ego” is lost completely, one’s own traumas and mental struggles dissolve with it, which means it is probably ineffective to attempt to work through these problems when a patient is in such a state.
However DMT may be an overarching powerful therapeutic tool for its ability to break a person through to “ultimate reality”, which on reflection in my experience, causes immense lasting positive life changes. A true spiritual/religious awakening type of effect. I have heard similar reports from those who have used 5-MeO-DMT although I have never tried that substance myself.
DMT in low amounts could be effective as a sleeping aid as opposed to benzodiazepines.
It may also be a useful tool for terminally ill patients, as the “unification” with the total sum whole can reduce a person’s fear of death.
…
Personal benefits experienced by myself include:
DMT breakthroughs have allowed me to come off of antidepressant medication (I didn’t feel I need it anymore), and changed my view on the nature of reality itself.